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 Post subject: Rudd's Asia Pacific Community Proposal Unrealistic
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:04 am 
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Kevin Rudd's proposal to create an Asia-Pacific community has met with lukewarm to critical responses.

Former Labor Prime Minister Paul Keating described the idea as a "very difficult task and not necessarily an appropriate one" while opposition attacked it as an "ill-conceived stunt".

It appears that Kevin Rudd himself may not have thought through it carefully nor consulted his close aides. Maybe it's not time yet or Rudd is ahead of his time? Great idea but not easy to implement. Cooperation currently under the framework of ASEAN and APEC are driven by economics but there are many historical and political differences that have been shelved to reach common ground.

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Rudd had said in outlining his "vision for an Asia-Pacific community" that "the European Union of course does not represent an identikit model of what we would seek to develop in the Asia-Pacific. But what we can learn from Europe is this - it is necessary to take the first step".

Mr Keating wrote that "even the basic first step made toward the European community - the European steel plan of the 1950s - would not, I believe, be capable of emulation these days, across East Asia and the subcontinent."

Although Mr Keating blamed John Howard for 12 "lost years" in Asian diplomacy, his essential argument was that the nations of East Asia were fundamentally unsuited to a European-style union.

"God knows, it has taken the Chinese 350 years of the modern age to truly recover their sovereignty. I do not see them sharing much of it with anyone else. And Japan remains one of the most insular, monocultural countries in the world."

Mr Keating also asserted the importance of the regional grouping he helped to create, the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation group. He implied that Mr Rudd's idea could threaten APEC:

"We have to be careful we don't end up being a member of nothing, especially if we pull away the bindings of the APEC leaders' meeting itself."


The arguments against the APC idea are

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The former foreign minister, Alexander Downer, said even if such a community eventuated, Australia could effectively be ceding her sovereignty to a regional organisation which had as members undemocratic states such as China, Burma, Laos and Vietnam.


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Rudd will sound out the leaders of Japan and Indonesia when he visits both countries next week. Next month, he will raise his idea with the leaders of Malaysia and South Korea on visits after the G8 summit in Japan.

He defended the idea in Parliament, saying Asia would be the centre of global economic, trade and military power this century. "We should not succumb to the inevitability that some suggest … that there is some real long-term prospect of war within our region, without putting in place mechanisms to ameliorate against that risk."


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/ ... 07048.html


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 Post subject: A small step at a time
PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:35 pm 
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Talks of an Asia-Pacific Community and even an ASEAN common currency suggested by one ASEAN prime minister (maybe Mahathir) many years ago are just dreams of some politicians that will never come about during their life time.

A common market as a start would be a more realisable proposition and this concept has been bandied by Singapore a few decades ago, but it fell on the deaf ears of the ASEAN governments.

Take a small step at a time, is my suggestion for Mr Kevin Rudd.


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 Post subject: Barry Desker : Rudd's Asia Pacific proposal "Dead"
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:22 am 
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Despite his diplomatic background, Barry Desker did not mince his words in his criticism of PM Kevin Rudd's proposal for Asia Pacific community.

Desker, a former Singaporean ambassador to Indonesia, reportedly delivered a stinging rebuke to Mr Rudd at a conference in Canberra attended by defence officials and foreign policy experts from Australia and abroad. He said the idea is "dead in the water" mainly because it was announced without consultation with Asian leaders. It amounts to what is normally termed as a diplomatic gaffe. No attempts were made to test the waters behind the scenes at corridors, backrooms, luncheons, dinners, etc, to sound out the officials and leaders of various Asian countries before announcing it to the press.

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"Can I be direct?" he asked the Australian Strategic Policy Institute conference. "The problem that South-East Asians have is that this came out of the blue. In a regional culture where you attempt to build support and create a broader base of opinion for a new idea, coming out of the blue results in very little support for the new idea. I would say it is dead in the water - right from the very beginning."

Mr Desker, dean of international studies at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, said Mr Rudd had failed to conform to standard Asian diplomatic practice.

"It would have been much more useful if it had been … conceptualised with regional leaders before it was presented as a bright new idea from Australia."

A spokesman for Mr Rudd said Mr Desker was "of course entitled to express his personal views on the … development of an Asia-Pacific community".


Another development at the same seminar :

A defence analyst, Andrew Davies, warned the conference that Australia would have to ramp up its submarine program and radically restructure its army in response to Asia's changing military environment.

Mr Davies, of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said "the period in which our Western allies are unquestionably the dominant powers right across the region is coming to an end", and he called for " the first real shake-up in 40 years" of Australia's defence structure.

He wants the army to abandon its traditional focus on combined infantry, armour and artillery training and move towards a two-tier structure.

Strangely, Australian defence forces rank and file has been demoralised lately for the lack of action since the country has opted for safer zones of operation and non-combatant roles compared the other western allied forces. A more peaceful world does not require the deployment of Australian forces overseas to fight others' wars. Too much professional pride and patriotism has gone into the heads of these young soldiers who don't know how fortunate they are to be alive.

The first tier would comprise an expanded special forces, to be deployed to war zones in coalition operations - essentially giving them a monopoly of "war-fighting capability".

The second tier would comprise soldiers trained for peacekeeping and other non-combat operations.

The two-tier proposal is likely to inflame sentiment in army ranks, where there is already discontent that few ordinary soldiers see front-line combat action. The lion's share of offensive operations has increasingly been given to elite groups like the Special Air Service and the commandos.

But Mr Davies, a former Defence Department official and intelligence analyst, said his proposal would formalise de facto practice in recent years.

"Such a structure would mean that Australian land forces would be less able to make conventional contributions to a general land war."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rud ... 51551.html


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